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Morgan +8 Plus 8 4.0 litre V8 engine ECU Chips Chipping

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Morgan +8 Plus 8 4.0 litre V8 engine ECU Chips Chipping
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Item location:NORWICH, United Kingdom
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Item Specifics - Car Parts & Accessories
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Computer, Chip, Cruise Control

Intended Use:

Modification/ Enhancement

Subtype:

Performance Chips

Condition:

New

Manufacturer:

Morgan

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More 'Low Cost' Morgan V8 Engine Parts, Components & Rebuild kits

We truly hope you enjoy our 24/7 V8 Engine Parts Shop. We are adding more and more items per week, and we are posting the start price in almost all cases with the VAT (17.5%) amount included, rather than on top of (added to) our normal prices, thus offering you the opportunity to save a considerable amount on your parts needs, whilst being secure in the knowledge of our 25 years' experience of the Rover V8 engine and all it involves, plus the considerable eBay status & reputation we already enjoy. We only sell parts that are truly required for the V8 engine, thus the prices are a reflection of the quality and appropriateness of them. We could sell low cost V8 parts of inferior quality, but we chose not to right from the beginning.





Essential V8 Sagem type Engine 4.0 Morgan +8 ECU Chips
(its an essential upgrade for all Morgan s otherwise it runs with a default Range Rover fuel map and that's worse than Microsoft Windows, in safe mode)

Now with free delivery -   We are also now offering free UK delivery on many other of our products.

Are these chips suitable for my car?
These chips are designed for the 2000 onwards 4.0 litre Morgan +8 which uses the Lucas Sagem Fuel Injection System.

Please note that although this listing is for the 2000 onwards 4.0 litre Morgan +8, we can also supply the same style of chipping enhancements for TVR, MGRV8, Range Rover, Land Rover and Discovery models too.

Just what is your Morgan thinking?
Gems posses a pre-programmed fuel trim that is instigated by recognising driving load, RPM and Throttle position (essentially at least). Now consider how much load your Morgan presents through the Air Mass Meter (AMM - The AMM essentially is the load detector) compared to a Range Rover and how this lack of load detection effects a lightweight Morgan. This severely effects the fuel trim just were you need it on all lighter cars, thus it so easy to see why the Morgan's run so weak through essential mid range load areas (1600 to 4200 rpm ) the engine then would be assumed to detonate very badly. However Morgan removed the knock sensors so the system is effectively blind to the problem and subsequently defaults to an ignition timing off about 20 degrees behind whats essentially required and that's a very long way out for any engine to run.

Avoid going into default.
Essentially Gems/Sagem engine management is equipped with an OBD-2 (on board diagnostics) style engine management computer. Unlike previous models, the Sagem system has the ability to constantly monitor its performance, efficiency and economy, and make logical adjustments to its ignition and fuelling parameters. It also records previous faults it may have encountered. The main problem it has is that it is constantly trying to maintain the compromised settings (for a Range Rover) installed by the original manufacturer (Land Rover).

Get the right settings.
In the following few paragraphs you will learn how simple it is to not only remove the robust security (Rover's pre-installation to lock out any future upgrades), but also how to improve on your standard engine's efficiency. It's so easy that you can gain all you need without any compromises.
That's Torque, Bhp and Economy!!

What are the gains from a chip install only?
From just installing the ECU chips you can easily expect at least 20-25% increase in torque throughout the entire rev range, bhp and efficiency too. The chip upgrade is also compatible with our piper camshaft upgrades, K&N sir filters, Carbon Fibre Super Flair Trumpets ad our full or partial Stainless Steel exhaust system without modification.

Essential for all 4.0 & 4.6 engine upgrades.
Even the slightest change such as an exhaust system or free flow filter will not register any favours with the ECU and it will continually fight against any extra fueling requirements to make the best of the upgrade. Indeed, it will always try to restore factory default settings, thus undermining anything you have done. With the removal of "robust security" once these chips have been installed and the revised fuel and ignition map they will simply adapt to any modifications, camshaft, intake or exhaust that you may do. The chips also have both 4.0 litre and 4.6 litre fuel maps stored on them so if you later upgrade to a 4.6 litre engine there is no need to send them back for a software re-write, simply plug in Test Book, Rovacom Lite or FaultMate and change from 4.0 to 4.6.

Included in the auction are;

  • 2 Quick fit EPROM chips. Offering a simple DIY installation.
  • 2 on-board required decoder chips. Also simple to fit.
  • Colour fitting instructions (no need for specialist equipment).
    and all the help you would ever need from us in the event you are in need.

If you have any questions at all, please feel free to email us any time yabe@rpiv8.com or call us on int + 44 (0)1603 891209.

Please Note : It will be necessary on Sagem vehicles to perform a security re-learn once these ECU chips have been fitted to enable the engine to start. This can be done with Test Book, Rovacom Lite, FaultMate or any other 3rd party diagnostics equipment which has the capability of the re-learn security option. If in doubt please contact us.

FAQ Zone.   (frequently asked questions).

  • Will I need anything else with these chips?
    Sorry, although we do not have any code to go with these chips it might be necessary to refit the knock sensors if Morgan never fitted these to your engine. We have found that most UK Morgan's did not have the knock sensors fitted so these will need to be purchased along with the mounting studs, and for most export vehicles too, however a few left Malvern with them still fitted so please check. If you are not sure what you are looking for then we have placed a picture below showing where the knock sensor is mounted on each side of the engine.

    We have the knock sensors listed in our eBay shop or alternatively you can order them when paying for these chips.

  • What is the install time?
    It's no more than 15 to 30 minutes under the bonnet and the simple 'Plug and Play' installation of just two management Chips complete with easy to follow instruction.

  • Will I need any special tools?
    Not at all, the only tools required are a screw driver for removing the ECU from the car. A T20 Torque screw driver for removing the ECU lid and then a small flat headed screw driver for removing the original ECU chips.

  • Could Chipping lower engine temperature?
    The fuel maps direct from Land Rover are very weak on the mid range fuel/air ratio. This will be beginning to cause problems with engine internal temperature, and can be the cause of valve guide, or worse still, shifted liner/cracked block problems, commonly found in Range Rovers and heavier 4x4 cars. This however, is normally in countries running very low octane fuels, but the advantages are for all.

  • I have heard that after chipping I might have problems?
    Although we have chipped many hundreds of Morgans we have encountered an occasional issue which has always gone back to the vehicle build which have all been resolved. These issues were simply....

    When Morgan build the wiring loom for the dash board they placed the rev counter wire in the same part of the loom to the Alarm signal/Engine check light wire. When the ignition is first turned on the alarm code is sent down the alarm signal wire, however at the same time the rev counter resets its self and this causes a voltage spike to travel down the rev counter wire. As the alarm signal is a very weak but precise the rev counter pulse interferes with the alarm code and causes the ECU to receive an incorrect code. This causes the engine check light to come on and fr the engine to not start that time. Although the engine check light will then remain on until reset the vehicle will start next time the ECU receives a correct code.

    Once the chips are fitted a security learn process is required to enable to new ECU chips to learn your 10AS alarm module code (This code is unique to your vehicle so can not be pre programmed) We have found that in some instances the 10AS alarm modules is faulty and will not perform this procedure and no communication to the 10AS can be established. In the couple of instances of this we have replaced the 10AS module with a new unit, then programmed the 10AS with the relevant information. Once this has been done then a security learn can be performed correctly.

    The OBDII communication port is wired incorrectly causing communication problems. We have OBDII ports with wiring kits available to re-wire this and rectify the fault.

    The ignition switch contacts have been faulty causing the ECU not to shut down correctly, this causes the battery to go flat over a period of time unnecessarily. You could try another ignition barrel here although we have found that a relay can be used to ensure that the ECU receives a direct 12 to 0 volt drop.
  • Your postage is not the cheapest. Why is this?.
    When you consider the construction type of this product and the need for appropriate safe packaging, together with the choice of delivery company, you will see that we will do all that is possible to ensure, that not only your package arrives on time but  in great shape.
    We could make delivery a smidgen cheaper, but no one would ever thank us if their purchase, no matter how heavy or fragile, arrived crushed, split, fragmented, late or even not at all. What's more, insured against any possible unfortunate event too. Thus our postage quotes represent far more than just the cheapest postage possible..

  • Is it possible to Visit Rpi. for collection, further information or for parts to be fitted.
    For sure we have many customers from all over the world, that not only visit us but enjoy our unique hospitality, as well as our in-house workshop facilities that can cater for anything from major rebuilds, restorations, engine fittings, LPG conversions. As well as drop in chipping and ignition system upgrades. Holly our Engine builder (Head Chef maybe) can always find the time to show you around the world of V8 Rover engines and explain all variants and upgrades.

  • Is Your location in 'North Norfolk', a great place to visit!.
    No matter where you are located in the world a visit to us and our area, whether for the day, a week or even for a weekend in itself can be very, very rewarding, We can happily offer you information and  assistance for accommodation ranging from our favourite  traditional eighteenth century Norfolk country house Hotel, the Norfolk Mead,  http://www.norfolkmead.co.uk/  or Modern Hotels, Norwich central Hotels or from a chosen range of local bed and breakfast (B&B) establishments. 
    We can also supply information links to ferry and airports to help, what's more as I have a deep regard for all things local to Norfolk you can find a wealth of local scenic information here,   http://www.scenicnorfolk.co.uk/   this is a unique local web site with some content supplied by myself.

  • Whats more, Now with online 'You-Tube'. videos too.
    To help give you the real feel of all we can offer, what we can achieve and the standards we aspire too we now have a space on 'You-Tube' for your enlightenment. (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RPIEngineering) to afford you a unique, real time snapshot of what you can expect from us. What's more, to see, feel  and genuinely experience the passion we have for what we do and what we can do for your V8.


We also supply Magnecor Ignition Wire Ignition distributor Upgrades, Stainless Steel Performance Exhausts too,

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