Question from eBay members .....
1. How does it compare with GBP 2200 British
speakers and other exspinev 'High End' sepaskers (Please read below)
2. What is the difference between our eBay listing
for GBP £750 version version the GBP £950 version versus the
GBP £1250 version (please read below)
The speaker have arrived in England.
Please allow 5 weeks for MODIFICATION IN ENGLAND BY LIM AIK LEONG (beware
of fakes) + delivery.
Please do NOT pay until the speaker are ready for delivery. Thank you.
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This is for the Original Chinese version, with the crossover for the
midrange lowered from 500 Hertz to 250 Hertz.
This means that most of the human voice will come through
a SEPARATE DEDICATED High Quality coated paper cone 5 inch midrange.
This should produce a realistic human voice.
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There is also an upgraded versions for GBP £1150 or GBP £1250
or GBP £2500
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The 2 pieces of 8 inch woofer is equal in size to
about 3 and half pieces of 6 inch speakers,
so this should give more power bass.
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The speakers VERY HIGH END and are covered in
EXPENSIVE REAL CHERRY WOOD VENEER + EXPENSIVE PIANO FINISH
In January 2007, we have stock of LIGHT colour REAL CHEERY WOOD VENEER
or DARK colour REAL CHERRY WOOD VENEER
Please tell which colour you prefer.
Hello
I have been looking at your speakers and reading the useful
information you provided. I have a couple of questions regarding the
£750.00 high end speakers.
1. I recently listened to the Wilson Benesch
Square 2 speakers and thought they were superb. How do these speakers
compare in your opinion and with other pricier floor standers?
2. Do they work well when placed next to a wall?
3. My current set up consists of a
pre amp (stello dp200) and a power amp (Conrad Johnson Sonographe)and
a
Alchemist Forsetti CD transport. Would the speakers work well in this
type
of set up? The reason I ask is because you make valve amplifiers for
which
the speakers may be tailored.
I am very impressed with your knowledge
and in the speakers.
Many thanks
Simon
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eBay member question =
"I recently listened to the Wilson Benesch Square 2 speakers and thought
they were superb."
"How do these speakers compare in your opinion and with other pricier
floor standers ?"
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In terms of appearance ..........
Wilson Benesch describe their black finish as 'Piano finish'.
However, WIlson Benesch simply describe their wood veneer finish as
'gloss'
Please ask Wilson Benesch if their 'stain cherry gloss' is or isn't
expensive 'piano finish'
Our Chinese expensive Piano finish is amongst the BEST IN THE WORLD
or MONEY REFUNDED (less shipping cost. equipment returned during 1 month
home trial)
Many people will agree that Chamfering / Chopping off the sides and
top of the cabinet
makes our cabinet look much more interesting than
GBP £2200 Wilson Benesch 'standard shaped' rectangular box,
that look like most other speakers, that sells for half the price.
The Chinese design of chamfering / Chopping off the sides , and top
of the cabinet
is probably the most practical way to improve the dispersion of sound,
as recommended by the famous Mr Harry F Olson, about 50 years ago !
( To be effective, you must chamfer / chop off A LOT of the sides /
top)
(Chamfering / Chopping off 10 millimetres has limited effect, on dispersion
of sound.)
This Chinese technic (as recommended by famous Mr Harry F Olson)
is much better than some manufacturer,
mounting a speaker in a spherical shape, above a FLAT REFLECTIVE surface
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In terms of quality of sound .........
Wilson Benesch Square 2 has a 1 inch tweeter + 7 inch speaker + an ABR
(Auxiliary Bass Radiator),
ABR (Auxiliary Bass Radiator) is a speaker WITHOUT a magnet ,
WITHOUT a motor.
Think of ABR (Auxiliary Bass Radiator)
as a VERY HEAVY (so difficult to control) version
of the 'typical' tunnel (Bass Reflex port) found in many speakers.
So, in terms of power handling, Wilson Benesch is like a 7 inch speaker
with a BIG diameter tunnel / bass reflex port
(and not the tiny 1 inch diameter tunnel / bass reflex port, found
in many speakers)
ABR (Auxiliary Bass Radiator) cannot produce big magic,
and Wilson Benesch specification show that their GBP £2200 Square
2
can only go down to about 50 Hertz or 60 Hertz.
A 'Concert Grand' Piano can down down to about 30 Hertz.
More than an Octave of music will be missing.
One Octave of music is HUGE.
One Octave is 12 keys of a piano, that has 88 keys
It is like buying a piano, with 12 keys missing !
A human being might be able to hear down to 20 Hertz.
MONEY BACK GUARANTEE (less shipping cost. equipment returned during
1 month home trail)
that our eBay listing for GBP £1250 MODIFIED IN ENGLAND BY LIM
AIK LEONG (beware of fakes) will produce
1. 3 times to 10 times (depending on how deep) more DEEPER bass
2. HUGE 22 inch kick bass drums and HUGE 32 inch Kettle drums will sound
5 times to 100 times better (depending on how fussy you are)
3. ABR (auxiliary Bass radiator WITHOUT magnet / motor)
are usually bigger than the 'main' speaker (WITH
MAGNET / motor)
(like the 30 years to 40 years old Kef Cadenza or
Kef 104aB (different to the 'coupled cavity' version))
and need to be MUCH MUCH HEAVIER than the moving
cone / parts of the 'main' speaker
to get a low resonance frequency,
in a smallish cabinet (smaller than a fridge)
because of the 'springiness' of the air.
So, you have a VERY HEAVY ABR WITHOUT A MAGNET ,
WITHOUT A MOTOR
to start AND STOP AND CONTROL the movement of the
ABR.
So, once the vibration from the 'main' speaker (with
a magnet)
move the HEAVY ABR,
the HEAVY ABR carry on moving and moving and moving
........
BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A MAGNET / MOTOR TO STOP / CONTROL
THE HEAVY ABR.
Can the 'main' speaker 'control' the ABR ?
Unfortunately, the answer is , rather badly !
Imagine a SMALL car with a SMALL engine
towing a BIG HEAVY caravan
using an ELASTIC ROPE (like the springy air in the
cabinet)
The acceleration of the car + HEAVY caravan
will be lousy.
The 'emergency' braking of the car + HEAVY
caravan will be lousy.
So, the HEAVY ABR has very poor transient response,
and CANNOT start nor stop QUICKLY.
Our 2 pieces of 'high end' 8 inch speaker with
HUGE HUGE HUGE expensive magnets
with LIGHTWEIGHT AIR in the bass reflex port
will start + stop 100 times faster than
HEAVY AB,
and produce bass that is 20 times to
100 times (depending on how fussy you are) better ,
faster start / stop bass than any HEAVY
ABR.
HEAVY ABR produces a lot of boomy rumbling
bass,
that might impress some inexperienced
Hi Fi magazine reviewer
or Hi Fi enthusiast do NOT own
SERIOUS , WELL DESIGNED (that need not be insanely expensive) BIG (the
size of a fridge) speakers.
However, many Audiophile used to SERIOUS , WELL DESIGNED (that need
not be insanely expensive) BIG (the size of a fridge) speakers,
will hate the boomy rumbling bass from ABR.
That is why KEF + Celestion (Celestion Ditton 66 has 12 inch ABR) and
most major speaker manufacturer
has STOPPED using HEAVY ABR.
Our 2 pieces of 'high end' 8 inch speaker with
HUGE HUGE HUGE expensive magnets
with LIGHTWEIGHT AIR in the bass reflex port
will start + stop 100 times faster than
HEAVY AB,
and produce bass that is 20 times to
100 times (depending on how fussy you are)
better , faster start / stop bass than
any HEAVY ABR.
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WHAT ABOUT HUMAN VOICES ?
HUGE 22 inch Kick Bass drum and HUGE 32 inch Kettle drum will
easily overload 1 piece of 7 inch speaker.
Once the HUGE 22 inch or 32 inch drum has overload the 7 inch speaker,
human voice will become blur , congested (as though the singer got
a bad cold and a 'blocked up' nose)
Sit 10 feet from the 7 inch speaker, in a 20 feet room,
turn the volume louder, and the 'blocked up nose' problem gets so bad
that
you will have trouble understanding the lyric of the song.
At this stage, you might as well turn if your Hi Fi set, and watch
television,.
Our eBay listing of GBP £1250 solve this problem by
directing the deep bass towards the 2 pieces of 'high end' 8 inch woofer
with HUGE EXPENSIVE magnets.
The sound of the HUGE drums are directed AWAY from
a SEPARATE DEDICATED 'High End' coated paper (better than carbon fibre)
5 inch midrange,
Our SEPARATE DEDICATED 5 inch midrange will NOT overload,
even if there is BIG LOUD DRUMS (at a sane listening volume).
Because of this clever solution to the overloading problem ............
MONEY BACK GUARANTEE (less shipping cost. equipment returned during
1 month home trial) that
WHEN THERE IS A LOUD BASS DRUM OR LOUD BASS INSTRUMENT,
human voices on our GBP £1250 speaker will be 10 times to 100
times better (depending on how fussy you are) , more realistic,
being able to trick you in believing that the singer AT A REALISTIC
LIVE SIZE VOLUME
is in your living room for 70 percent of your CD (even studio recording)
IF YOU ARE USING OUR EBAY LISTING FOR GBP £750 EL34 Triode Connection
'Chinatown'
+ HILARIOUSLY PRICED, SUPERB GBP £250 SONY CD PLAYER
Our ebay listing for GBP £1250 'Chinatown' speaker
MODIFIED IN ENGLAND BY LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes)
is 100 percent 'neutral'
and is suitable for valve or transistor or Class A transistor or digital
amplifiers..
Our ebay listing for GBP £1250 'Chinatown' speaker MODIFIED
IN ENGLAND BY LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes)
is 100 percent 'neutral'
and will make
your Conrad Johnson Sonographe (transistor) will sound about 10 times
to 100 tines better (depending on how fussy you are)
driving any other speaker with 1 or 2 pieces of 5 inch or 6 inch or
7 inch speakers
selling for GBP £300 to GBP £4000 (Yeah, there are some
people trying to sell 2 pieces of 6 inch speakers for an unbelievable GBP
£4000, with terrible frequency response)
However, our eBay listing for our GBP £750 EL34 Triode Connected
'Chinatown'
MODIFIED IN ENGLAND BY LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes)
will sound 2 times to 100 times better than your
your Conrad Johnson Sonographe (transistor) amplifer,
which is essentially a 'Class B biased' transistor amplifer, that will
produce 'Class B crossover distortion',
which some Audiophile (especially valve / tube Audiophiles) hate..
It does not matter of you pay GBP £100 or GBP £100000..
A 'Class B biased' transistor amplifer is a 'Class B' amplifer , is
a 'Class B' amplifer , is a 'Class B' amplifer .......
WRITING MORE .... PLEASE WAIT A FEW DAYS .......
WRITING MORE .... PLEASE WAIT A FEW DAYS .......
Question from eBay member on 10
July 2008 =
I am located in Brisbane Australia
and I bought one of your high end triode valve amps a few years ago you
may remember me. Now I am replacing my speakers and I was considering these
- your price is 750 GBP but then it also says they can be upgraded and
gives 3 other prices - what is the difference for each price level?
Thank you for buying our amplifier.
I am glad that you like the sound of our Valve / tube amplifier,
or you will not be thinking of buying our speakers.
We should have eBay listing for 4 different version of the speakers
(in 1 cabinet), which are ......
GBP 750 original Chinese version (in 1 cabinet),
GBP 950 Upgradeable (in 1 cabinet),
GBP 1250 Chinatown (in 1 cabinet),
GBP 2500 Lm Aik Leong Signature (in 1 cabinet),
.
FOR A SMALL SUM OF GBP 100 MORE,
YOU CAN GET THE SPEAKERS IN A DIFFERENT STYLE OF 2 CABINETS
(There is one smallish TRIANGULAR cabinets,)
(mounted on top of a big cabinet for the 2 pics of 8 inch woofer)
(So, for a pair of speakers, you get 2 smallish TRIANGULAR CABINET
+ 2 big cabinets)
We should have eBay listing for
4 different version of the speakers (in 2 cabinet), which are ......
GBP 850 original Chinese version (in 2 cabinet),
GBP 1050 Upgradeable (in 2 cabinet),
GBP 1350 Chinatown (in 2 cabinet),
GBP 2600 Lm Aik Leong Signature (in 2 cabinet),
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Our eBay listing for GBP 950 or GBP 1050 Upgradeable speaker have
1. FREQUENCY MEASUREMENT IN ENGLAND
+ QUALITY CONTROL IN ENGLAND BY LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes)
and correcting for any minor hiccup, like wires connected the wrong
way around.
(Please read below for more information)
2. LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes) MODIFICATIONS OF CONNECTING THE
MIDRANGE IN REVERSE PHASE ('reverse phase' sounds wrong, but it is the
CORRECT TECHNICAL METHOD for 2nd order crossover)
(Please read below for more information)
3. LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes) MODIFICATION of changing the amount
of EXPENSIVE Plastic Film capacitor (not the cheap electrolytic capacitors
used in most speakers) in the crossover for the about 200 Hertz crossover.
(Please read below for more information)
4. LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes) MODIFICATION of increasing
the diameter and length of the Tunnel / Bass reflex port. The 'typical'
1 inch diameter bass reflex port of the 'typical;' speaker is MUCH TOO
SMALL, and will EASILY OVERLOAD with a few watts of deep bass from the
speaker. This was proven by a AES (Audio ENgineer Society) paper MANY YEARS
AGO,
but most of our competitor do not seem to have read this AES paper.
(Please read below for more information)
5 = LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes) MODIFICATION of L PAD to reduce
the treble to a 'flat' frequency response + increase power handling.
(Please read below for more information)
6= LIM AIK LEONG (beware of fakes) MODIFICATION TO MAKE THE MIDRANGE
SOUND 20 percent to 3 times better (depending on how fussy you are)
This is a secret, and is DONE IN ENGLAND (beware of fakes)
SOME OF THE MODIFICATION / QUALITY CONTROL ARE DONE IN ENGLAND,
AND I HAVE ASKED THE CHINESE FACTORY
TO DO SOME OF THE MODIFICATION
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Our eBay listing for GBP 1250 or GBP 1350 Chinatown speaker have
1. to 6. ALL OF THE MODIFICATIONS METIONED ABOVE FOR THE CHEAPER 'UPGRADABELE'
SPEAKER
7. LIM AIK LEONG (bewasre of fakes) MODIFICATION to the crossover to
keep more of the Human voice out of the 1 inch tweeter,
so treble. cymbals, , sibilance (when a woman say 'his' , it sound
like 'hissssssssk') sound 2 times to 5 times better (depending on how fussy
you are) when playing LOUD MUSIC IN 20 FEET ROOMS
(If you only have a 10 feet room, you might not need this modification)
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Our eBay listing for GBP 2500 or GBP 2600 'Lim AIk Leong' Speakers
use the same cabinet.
I have replaced the superb Chinese speaker, with
'Ultra High End' European 1 inch tweetter + Ultra High ENd' European
inch midrange WITH HUGE MAGNETS
+ 2 pieces of 'High End' 8 inch woofer with HUGE EXPENSIVE MAGNETS
(made in China, because I cannot find a better European or AMerica 8 inch
woofer)
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